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    I couldn't find a place to post a bag seed grow so I put it here. Nothing but Bag Seed.
    I started some bag seed to see what would happen if tried a DWC without oxygenation, just 10 ml of 3% H202 every other day throughout. I put 6 plants in a community tub with just a submersible pump pointed straight up creating a fountain. Once the plants where rooted they went into the tub in clear Ph tap water for the first two weeks, one failed. The roots continued to grow and the plants looked like they where doing well but stopped growing near the end of week 2. I added week 1 GH nutes at 1/2 strength for week three and they grew but still very slowly. Week four I boosted nutes to week 3 full strength and added air. Yesterday I put them into my mini DWC. Here's what I got. Day 28 veg

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    I've read a lot since switching to DWC and there are so many differing opinions regarding oxygenation. That's why I've always kept some BS on hand, to experiment. Now I know that I don't have to panic if I loose my air for awhile.
    No idea what they are but the beans where very small.

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    good stuff nohib, I kept a small battery operated air pump/stone handy when I grew DWC nohib, it was made for a minnow bucket if you do ever loose hydro the plants can go w/o light for awhile w/o hurting them, kinda like an overcast day lol if the roots warm up when no power I'd suggest a block of ice in the rez may help
    keep smilin'
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    Quote Originally Posted by T&G View Post
    good stuff nohib, I kept a small battery operated air pump/stone handy when I grew DWC nohib, it was made for a minnow bucket if you do ever loose hydro the plants can go w/o light for awhile w/o hurting them, kinda like an overcast day lol if the roots warm up when no power I'd suggest a block of ice in the rez may help
    keep smilin'
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    Funny you mentioned water temp. From everything I've read you want to keep it under 68* but my TS plant gets as high as 71* without any obvious impact on the plants. Some reading I've done suggests that H202 will offset the higher temps which makes perfect sense. I have been adding 10 ml of H2020 every other day to all plants from day one.
    I have a DPK that hermied on me due to severe stress. I brought it upstairs still in the bucket and it sat in the corner (cat toy) for four days continuing to grow, no air. I put a bubbler in and it's a house plant.(for now)

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    Am I the only one who did not assume "bagseed" when they read the title?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadimar View Post
    Am I the only one who did not assume "bagseed" when they read the title?




    Got your attention did it? lol

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    I was going to lengthen it but then I realized you probably intended it to be read that way.
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    You mean it doesn't stand for "Basic Simplicity?"
    I do not fail -- I succeed at finding out what does not work.

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    I had a joke book that had a bit about this one

    I told my neighbour's kid that I have a B.S. degree. Needless to say..
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    The BS seemed to fit, the plants can survive without aeration although they would certainly do poorly, and it is nothing but bag seed. My Chuckleosis just reared it's ugly head, must have happened when the sun broke through the clouds here for 5 minutes and cheered me up.
    On the other hand I don't know what these plants are but they're gonna fill a need and seem to be quite happy. I was going to call the thread "Five bag ladies" but I would probably end up with some males. Why tempt fate?
    All of these beans are the smallest I've ever seen and I have a bunch of them from the same source, the product was pretty damned good considering it went to seed. I'll have to watch for nanners although there were none previously.
    It takes about five minutes to do the numbers on each bucket, and I will stagger changing the water/nutes so I don't have to do them all at once. I have two new pumps, 4 lines each and have discs now instead of stones (no that's not a medical condition) so air is covered. Couldn't afford AN nutes so sticking with what I know, GH. They may be bag seeds but they started out in some breeders basement.

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    Never look a gift horse in the mouth.
    Here's the orphans cracked 34 days ago and abused for 3 weeks!
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    They can't stay in here very much longer the root balls are getting too big for the mini dwc. I have everything ready to move them to big buckets and 12/12.
    So far just GH 3 part and 3% H202 under cfls that are several years old. Not too bad imho.

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    Whatis the brand of equipment your growing in. Jerry

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    Quote Originally Posted by gelu65 View Post
    Whatis the brand of equipment your growing in. Jerry
    Hey Jerry
    I'm using a 600/w lumiteck switchable digital ballast for 12/12 and 16 x 23/w cfls for veg. Air pumps are hagen and Eco4. General Hydroponics 3 part nutrients.
    Recycled 4 gallon buckets. Very basic...

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    And that basic setup has been producin some wicked lookin healthy plants man, Goes to show that you dont need to spend a fortune to have a hydro setup of your own. Good Stuff Nonhibition...K.I.M.
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    I fall upon the earth, and I am embraced. Water gives me life, and I spring forth into the light. My roots run deep into the earth, and I am nourished. With wind and water, light and earth, I conspire to ease your pain and heal your wounds, to bring you peace and calm your mind, to give you wisdom and truth of heart.
    I return to the earth and I am embraced.I am Cannabis
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    nice and healthy good work so far.
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    nice bs
    thats all i grew 4 the first years of growing
    and u def get some suprizes
    nice grow

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    Thanx H&W420
    Your're right about that. I've got a bunch of 'em. These are looking Indica dominant so Mamma will be happy. Gonna have to move to move them into 4 gals soon which means they have to go stay at the motel 12/12, not enough room in veg cab.
    Besides that these are holding up my ProV gear I really want to get on the DPK and G31.

    Peace

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    I return to the earth and I am embraced.I am Cannabis
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    BS now with TS

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    I hope these turn out to be Bag Ladies. The one on the right is a little wonky Ph was too high so she/it had poor uptake. It's healthy just "floppy" for lack of a better term.

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    I return to the earth and I am embraced.I am Cannabis
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    That last post double posted for whatever reason so I edited the double and turned it into this totally mindless babble, blah, blah, blah lol

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    Dr Willards Plant Catalyst Test
    Dr Willards Plant Catalyst (sodium silicate) arrived today and so I'm going to try it out as a folier on these 5 baggers. I mixed 15ml of DR W into 32 0z clear water and did a folier spray. Then it occurred to me afterwards, as it so often does, PH DUMMY...Oh yea right. This product on it's own has a Ph of 12.5 so Professor N just sprayed his plants and didn't even PH THE FUCKING WATER. OK I'll spray the crap out of them with clear PH 6.0 and cross my fingers. The product is supposed to significantly increase the plants ability to utilize nutrients so I'll add it to 2 (black lids) of the 5 plants when I remix, today or tomorrow and we'll see. Two femmes so far.
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    These plants are very succulent, I can twist a stem 360 degrees without doing damage so the silica should eliminate this issue as using silica is supposed to increase plant fiber, strength, size etc.
    What? The copper wire? Oh this how I used to train my plants. I cut the wire to the desired length, cutting diagonally gives it a pointed end which I lodge in the stems. No I'm not driving spikes through my plants to stress them, just enough penetration to hold things in place, as the stem lengthens the wires fall out, it works really well and has never caused any discernible issues. With DWC I don't want tie downs and this easy and not in the way.
    Disclaimer. no plants were hurt in this experiment. SPCA (Society for the Prevention of Conscious Awareness)

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    I got to go to my mailbox and see if I got my willards stuff in. Its been a while since putting in that free order of theres. I want to try that stuff outdoors.
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    Hey KIM
    ya have to break down the numbers to get a proper amount. I'm using 15 ml in 32 oz phed water for folier and 15 ml for a 4 gallons mix with the nutes cut in half and 10 ml of H202 3% every other day. Added to feed on two plants and folier for the other three...
    I sent an e-mail to the Canadian rep to get a cost for 4 litres w/taxes and shipping. Did you get an e-mail from Chris saying he is sending your sample?

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    I return to the earth and I am embraced.I am Cannabis
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    Dr Willards Update
    I went ahead on the 11th and started experimenting with Dr Willards Plant Catalyst and I can't believe the almost immediate difference. I mixed 1/2 nutes + Dr W on two
    plants and normal mix plus folier on the other three. Two days later and the wonky girl who was like Gumby is now far more rigid (1/2 nutes +) and standing without a prop. All five plants have basically stood right up and in general they all look much better. Three are still not showing sex yet but I have my fingers crossed. These plants have been abused from the get go because I was testing ideas but are set on "normal" lol for the duration.


    The G31 in veg has very fast root growth (folier spray) and the DPK are taking their sweet time.

    Will keep updating on this product. Thanks for the heads up PitViper

    I'll post pictures later I have a 1/2 acre to mow with my push mower, my lawn tractor crapped. Just think how healthy I'll be this afternoon. lol

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    I return to the earth and I am embraced.I am Cannabis
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    This plant had to be propped up 24 hrs ago. She looks like she did 2 hits of purple micro dot last night but a growing femme eh.
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    They have all picked right up...


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    I return to the earth and I am embraced.I am Cannabis
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    Day 19 BS update
    Everyone is looking good so far. The "wonky one" is still canoing but no burn, Ph is on the money, TDS ok, lots of air, there's one in every crowd eh.
    The Dr Willards has lived up to the claims all plants became more robust and the two with Dr W and half nutes are doing just as well as those on full nutes. No issues yet and they started to show buds around day 15, no nanners, all is well.
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    They all look indica dominant.
    The stems on the fans on all 5 are really long.


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    I fall upon the earth, and I am embraced. Water gives me life, and I spring forth into the light. My roots run deep into the earth, and I am nourished. With wind and water, light and earth, I conspire to ease your pain and heal your wounds, to bring you peace and calm your mind, to give you wisdom and truth of heart.
    I return to the earth and I am embraced.I am Cannabis
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