Coco Soil Mixed With Perlite

**EpicAhren** · 04-13-2014

Hi,

I'm planning an outdoor grow.

I want to pot my plants in coco soil mixed with perlite so I can control the nutrients and really give the plants what they need individually.

What do you guys think?

**rangergord** · 04-13-2014

Not sure what to think. When I tried coco and perlite, indoors I did not have much success. Have you tried coco along with an appropriate fertilizer before, with good results?

**Crazy_Eagle** · 04-14-2014

I just use good old pro mix or sunshine #4 with some amendments and good to go for the summer!

**EpicAhren** · 04-16-2014

I've used coco bfore but always mixed it with soil.

**Lightly_Toasted** · 04-16-2014

You guys kill me mixing soiless with soil.... Substandard grow 9 out of 10 times.

LT

**Northern Man** · 04-16-2014

http://bigbudsmag.com/grow/article/m...onics-cannabis

Personally never had good luck with coco myself. I found this article explaining the pro's and con's of coco and some issues you may have along the way.

NM

**EpicAhren** · 04-18-2014

I'm getting a lot of negative feedback on the coco idea, also in my local area. I'm going for an all mix or a pro mix :P

thanks everyone!

**MoonAndStarz** · 05-29-2014

Originally Posted by EpicAhren

I'm getting a lot of negative feedback on the coco idea, also in my local area. I'm going for an all mix or a pro mix :P

thanks everyone!

Hey Epic! Just wondering how your grow is going and if you decided on a mix? You mentioned pro mix, I would suggest using their PRO MIX HP because it has perlite in it like you mentioned you were looking for. Here's a link to some more info if you're still hunting around.

Let me know if you've already found something, I'm always curious what other growers are using.

**keepitmedicated** · 05-30-2014

Im using a half and half mix of Promix garden soil with Myco added and Premium potting soil cause its good to use and has a decent amount of perlite in it. That garden soil promix dont have any perlite in it, If you want to go with a bag mix then stick with the promix, Cant go wrong with it and my outdoor plants are loving it. They all are growin nice and healthy and fast, Should be a decent year. Hopefully. Good luck with your gardens this year.

**MoonAndStarz** · 05-30-2014

Hi keepitmedicated!
Glad to hear you're having success with your grow! What are the benefits you've seen of using half and half of the two mixes?

**hush** · 05-30-2014

I recently gave up Sunshine Advanced #4 for coco, and I will never turn back. I was able to decrease my container size from 3 gallons to less than 1 gallon, and I'm still not getting rootbound. The brand I use is Cyco Coco Pearl. I dump it into my pots right out of the bag. It has just the right amount of perlite to prevent compaction (like maybe 15% or so).

Most people who have problems with coco are treating it like soil, instead of treating it like a hydroponics medium, which it is. You need to adjust pH down to 5.8-6.3 just like in active hydro systems, and you ideally want to use fertilizer salts instead of organics.

**pit viper** · 05-30-2014

they're mislead by the organic substrate label,aside from the small amount of salt in a new batch after a flush,it's just as inert a substrate as rockwool or hydroton is,lockup happens when its not ph'd and flushed as regularly as any other kind of inert medium is,it cant break anything down on its own,seen some very nice grows on other forums whether its hand watered or drain to waste,never seen it work well in a recirculating system,it isn't clean enough for it.

**hush** · 05-30-2014

Very true. I only use it in drain to waste setups like hempy buckets and hand watered pots.

**TradingBeanz** · 05-30-2014

Coco coir is a great medium for hydroponic growing but if I were planning an outdoor grow I would go with a good
soil mix like everybody else recommended.

The Rev's book is awesome. It is a good introduction to making a balanced soil blend which the Rev calls "Supersoil"
It is pretty super from what I have seen!

The book is called "True Living Organics". It covers everything organic, which is what you will want to know, I think,
growing outdoors. Commonly called the TLO method.

You could look up Subcool's soil recipes also, if you are keen on anything from a basic soil mix to a more complex mix.

I grew a little plant outdoors in a simple supersoil recipe and the smoke was DANK!!!

Peace.

**pit viper** · 05-31-2014

Originally Posted by hush

Very true. I only use it in drain to waste setups like hempy buckets and hand watered pots.

hempys rock,longtime grower "japanfreak" from CW,was able to get some unbelievable super high yields with only 250watt's from some stout plants grown only in pearlite(dtw) in hempys.

**keepitmedicated** · 05-31-2014

Originally Posted by MoonAndStarz

Hi keepitmedicated!
Glad to hear you're having success with your grow! What are the benefits you've seen of using half and half of the two mixes?

Well the promix garden soil dosent have any perlite added to it, But it has myco added to it for a great boost to the root zone.
The premium potting soil is nice and airy, lots of perlite but I found that I have to feed my plants sooner and more often using only that.
So the mix of the two seem to make a nice airy medium, Lots of perlite and enough food to last at least 21 days before having to start a nutrient program.
Those are the two soils that I have access to that makes a great medium when blended. Ive tried everything round these parts and found this is great so far. Want to see what the flowers finish off like. IF there is any difference. I flowered in both soils by themselves but not with boh. But the growth so far is showin me that im on to somthing... K.I.M.

**EpicAhren** · 06-01-2014

Hi guys,

check out my plants, I went for a nice pro mix with perlite in it.

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From left to right. Purple, Silver and Kush. I've topped them once and am planning to put them in bigger pots.

**keepitmedicated** · 06-01-2014

lookin pretty damn good Ahren. How long is your outdoor season over there in the Netherlands. Probebly pretty close to my area. Pretty damn short. Good luck they look happy so far..K.I.M.

**Husbandnwife420** · 06-02-2014

yes lookin real nice

**MoonAndStarz** · 06-03-2014

Originally Posted by keepitmedicated

Well the promix garden soil dosent have any perlite added to it, But it has myco added to it for a great boost to the root zone.
The premium potting soil is nice and airy, lots of perlite but I found that I have to feed my plants sooner and more often using only that.
So the mix of the two seem to make a nice airy medium, Lots of perlite and enough food to last at least 21 days before having to start a nutrient program.
Those are the two soils that I have access to that makes a great medium when blended. Ive tried everything round these parts and found this is great so far. Want to see what the flowers finish off like. IF there is any difference. I flowered in both soils by themselves but not with boh. But the growth so far is showin me that im on to somthing... K.I.M.

Just using PRO MIX HP I start my nutrient program after about 10 days which isn't too soon for me. It's fascinating to see how creative growers are these days. Please keep updated on your results.