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    Well now things have gotten a little more interesting in my life, Let me fill yall in. I am very active in my youngest ons hockey league Atom ages 9-10, and with the other leagues around here. Recently the assistant coach for the junior team has been diagnosed with a cancer around his lung area and has him really scared. So now I know that there are people there who know that I use cannabis for different things. So he pulls me aside to tonight and started to ask me questions about if cannabis can cure his ailment. I told him that there is reports that is true, but does not cure everything but a good chance that it will be positive results. Talkin about oil RSO in fact, So he asked me if I can get some for him. I had some of what I made the other week with me and showed it to him. He would like me to help him out, I told him that first off I would like to have some kinda written contract of some form just in case the law man comes down on me and I can have somthing to use in my defence. The mans got 3 daughters I have to help him. Young girls under 10 they need there father for a while longer still. So going to meet him at starbucks tomorrow to talk more and mabey work somthing out. I did not tell him that I grow it yet, said that I can get access to it but they will need to grow the plants out first to have enough quality pot to make a good oil concentrate and Budder/ Cannaoil. So things are going to get stressful till I build a trusting relationship with him, But I do believe that he is speaking the truth and some are talking about a fundraiser to helpany medical bills that he will encrue. I feel for the man so I hope that we can work somthing out. Will keep you all informed as to what I will be up to. Upgrading will need to happen also with a new light and nutes to be able to grow enough for him. Stay cool all K.I.M.
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    Careful K.I.M RS was only trying to help and he had to flee the country. Empower him, don't make him dependent. If he is physically able learning to grow his own could be a real lifesaver in terms of being positively engaged in his own recovery.

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    Yes, my first thought was you should err on the side of caution. He should talk to a doctor to see if he can get legal, even if under the new rules. He can buy the government-contracted bud but also get some better stuff from you on the side. Presumably, if he is registered and buys some from the Gov., there is very low chance he or anyone would cause a fuss about some cannabis he picks up on the side from another guy right? Because for all intents and purposes he is totally following the law! Might be a safer option..

    And in the meantime, you could probably take the risk of helping supply him. The idea of something written is a good one, at least it is something, just in case shit happens it will look good on you.
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    good for you K.I.M. but like ranger said, be careful how much info about yourself you share Brother. I helped a good buddy once and asked for nothing in return but that he not tell anyone, guess what?

    I'm not sure about what good getting something in writing would be though, wouldn't it ust be proof of something illegal?
    I pm'd you 2 of my stories of helping

    be safe
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    Thanks guys for looking out for my well being I appreciate it. Good to know that I have friends lookin out for me. Great advice guys, I will print off a shit load of literature to bring him tomorrow showing the benefits of cannabis treating cancer. I will definatly tell him to get to the specialist and tell him that he wants to medicate/alleviate his ailments caused fromthe cancer and treatments. He will have to reimburse me for the meds I give him if it works out but not at a profit. Just the growing mediums, nutes and electric bill. I have a couple family members that can look into the guy to tell me if he is a cool guy or whats up. Handy family members that are cool with me growin and helping out where I can. Damn I have been giving their ex step father weed for the past year and a bit.
    I want something in writing so that when Im up in front of the judge mabey they will take it easy on me under compassionate grounds. Its not like I grow for profit, Just personal pot with a bit goin to the family members who need it. So that should make an impression eh. Well going to starbucks around 10:30 will let all know what went down after that. Thanks again guys, What a great feeling having you all here for support. Stay Cool K.I.M.
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    Sounds like you're being very careful, good luck with it.

    I worry for patients in this situation - of course you can help someone get set-up to grow their own supply without incriminating yourself and that would be ideal but what happens in those intervening three or four months waiting for his crop? Cancer can progress at an alarming rate. And, I suspect, having just received a diagnosis, he has a hell of a lot of other things on his plate to deal with. Learning this at a leisurely pace is one thing, growing for the first time with your life potentially hanging in the balance is another. Like you, I hope I would help this guy as much as I could while trying to maintain my own safety.

    Please don't think I am encouraging you to put your liberty in danger with the above, I don't have any agenda at all, just my own thoughts on a situation which I feel is going to crop up more and more for people who grow and are inclined to offer help if the opportunity presents itself.

    Hope it all works out.

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    Thanks for the tips podencoid, Mabey that would be a better course to follow to set him up with his own grow room. Be it that I would be doing most of the growing for the first garden. Then he can do it himself, But you raise a good question about the following months till the crop comes in. Damn he might even die by then depending on the cancer and its rate of attack. Will know that better by tomorrow. I will start to feel anxious if he asks to purchase some especially the amount he would need to make his own rso. Again thanks for the ideas that got me thinkin. K.I.M.
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    Kim I know how scared I was when I got the words you have cancer in your lung... First let him get over the shock, then find out if he,s operable . They removed the top of my left lung with what has been very sucsessful so far .no more cancer showing in the last year or so. YIf he can he should go that route first, IMHO. They have a lot of success these days. Other than that the mmj will help him keep it off his mind. New user tho so dose accordingly as to unknown effects. Don't want him to be percicuted by parents who's children he's coaching,Nor you. As others have already said just use your 3rd eye and be careful. Oj

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    Sorry for the mistake, it was my right lung . The right lung has 3 sections where the left has only 2 sections . Lol hard to tell left from right when your my age

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    I find myself wondering how he knew to approach you with his questions. Sounds like more people know about your use and possibly gardening than you think. Unless you're "out in the open" about it around your parts.

    I'm open online, but locally no one knows shit -- not even my folks and sister.
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    I have been legal for near a decade and felt it to be my responsibility to be fairly open about it in my community. I feel it's necessary to normalize medical use of cannabis. This is how you move the goal posts of public opinion.
    Of course personal security plays into this so very few no about my personal grow. This is why I am so hesitated to show my growroom. As I have directed many to this site in the past, not so much in the last few years as the Site morphed from a medical advice forum to a grow Site.
    I can't imagine hiding it from my family and or friends. It's just plain unhealthy. Outright dangerous from a addiction point of view. I am a adult and don't need my parents blessing. I value honesty to family and to myself more than pleasing anyone at this point.
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    I have never hidden my marijuana use, but have made a point to let it be known that I have no idea about gardening. Most people that I have smoked with say that the marijuana plant it a hard one to grow but enjoy smoking. Other Than my intermediate family No one has a clue. Probebly seen me readin a hightimes at a game or somthing who knows. Mabey the fact my winter coat smells like a roach may have somthing to do with it. Good question to ask him why he confronted me.
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    I share someof the same views as you hopalong. Like you said someone has to widen the minds of the comunitys that we live in. Its one thing to be for legalization but another to show off the garden. Im close to most of my family and when the filter clogs up I have to explain the smell. And they are not dumb,Damn two of the members I let know so that they dont come over when Im trimming. Dont like to throw it in their faces but other than that they are all supportive. K.I.M.
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    Btw I would have to agree with OJ that, obviously, this man's best course of treatment is following the doctors advice. We continue to improve therapy for patients with cancer and are entering the realm of personalized medicine, where treatment decisions are based on more than just 'what works for most'. And I'm 100% sure he could easily get a doctor to sign off on medical cannabis at the very least for nausea and pain during the chemo he will inevitably receive.

    It's always a tough thing who you let in on your growing. I am underground ie. no licence, in Canada. I'm a small grow, I grow for myself and for fun, and supply only close friends. My mom, grandmother (on dad's side), but not my father are fully aware of what I do LOL. I think my dad has connected the dots though.. If I was legal, I'd shout it from the rooftops to help change peoples opinions.
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    Mornin' K.I.M.
    I am very outspoken on the issue in my community, at cancer care, in the cancer care shuttle in the shower etc. As a result I have been approached numerous times. Here's how I deal with it.

    "I'm not a Dr. and I am not qualified to offer medical advise. I can offer knowledge and support."
    "Give me your email address and I'll send you links to sites where you can research cannabis for your self and make an educated opinion."
    "If you decide that you want to proceed, it will be based on your own feelings".
    "Unfortunately the law is the law and you know I cannot provide you with MJ whether I give it to or sell t to you. I'm no good to anyone if I'm in jail."
    "With that being said I'll do what I can but you have to fight the fight"

    My feeling is that if a person is serious about fighting illness and sincere in their interest in MJ they have to step up. Handling it this way may seem a little thick skinned but I got legal to protect myself.
    You could put yourself at great risk and you don't want to miss the next game brother

    There is no grey area here...
    I fall upon the earth, and I am embraced. Water gives me life, and I spring forth into the light. My roots run deep into the earth, and I am nourished. With wind and water, light and earth, I conspire to ease your pain and heal your wounds, to bring you peace and calm your mind, to give you wisdom and truth of heart.
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    I'm glad to hear so many of you have no family issues over cannabis. I'm jealous. I have to settle for a detente with the folks and sisters, where there are just certain subjects no one brings up or talks about. It's not perfect, but it keeps the peace.
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    Quote Originally Posted by groo View Post
    I'm glad to hear so many of you have no family issues over cannabis. I'm jealous. I have to settle for a detente with the folks and sisters, where there are just certain subjects no one brings up or talks about. It's not perfect, but it keeps the peace.
    Hey Groo
    I can appreciate that you don't want to alienate your loved ones. Politics can destroy relationships. I'm a bit of a hard ass and I tell people around me that I love them and respect them and that I expect no less in return. I guess I am lucky in this area because everyone has known for years that I have MJ in my life. It's also there for them to see that my life has been just like theirs, a family, a job, a home. Others will say that they have seen me go from a confrontational nasty s.o.b. drunk to a peaceful caring person who can say I love you in public, show compassion and so on. Family is about support and unity. Have you thought about giving them a chance?
    I fall upon the earth, and I am embraced. Water gives me life, and I spring forth into the light. My roots run deep into the earth, and I am nourished. With wind and water, light and earth, I conspire to ease your pain and heal your wounds, to bring you peace and calm your mind, to give you wisdom and truth of heart.
    I return to the earth and I am embraced.I am Cannabis
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    I don't think anyone said they have no family issues. I almost never have contact with my parents. I have made my own life around my own believes and values. How is it different than anything other difference of lifestyle or belief. It would not be healthy to hide your loss of faith and continue to attend church to appease them or stay in the closet if gay. Hiding and secrets cause subconscious shame and guilt.
    I am an adult and my own man. I have long left the nest. My family just like everyone else must take me as I am. The only difference is the love I have for them present or not.
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    Oh they know I use medical cannabis, they just all disagree with it. Mom used to ask if I'd used any lately, and I'd honestly answer "of course", which would piss her off. After a while I started answering "do you really want to know?", and after a while she stopped asking. She knows the answer, but life is more peaceful if she doesn't ask the question and have the answer thrown in her face.

    Sometimes you just have to agree to disagree and drop a subject, even with friends and family whose opinions you cherish. Perhaps more so with them.
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    I'm starting to feel the love again here. K.I.M all I could suggest would be to proceed with caution. I've helped out numerous patients myself that I met taking my mother to chemo appts. Most times without the slightest hesitation. Its hard to see someone suffer and not want to reach out help. However there's always something that comes up. Either for your them. Steer him in the right direction and hope for the best. If he's truely interested in RS oil there's more than enough info available. With that said, its your decision and only you'll be able decide what's the right choice of action. Prays for the couch.

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    You know I-medicate out of Vancouver has the finest honeyoils why not refer him there where he can purchase tomorrow

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    What I see K.I.M. is that you are a compassionate person who wants to help some who may be in need. Good on you, 75 thumbs up
    I fall upon the earth, and I am embraced. Water gives me life, and I spring forth into the light. My roots run deep into the earth, and I am nourished. With wind and water, light and earth, I conspire to ease your pain and heal your wounds, to bring you peace and calm your mind, to give you wisdom and truth of heart.
    I return to the earth and I am embraced.I am Cannabis
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    Thanks for all the advice and caution guys thats really cool of you.
    So as it turns out you give a man a doobie and he medicates for a day
    Teach a man to grow and he medicates for life.
    Went and had a good chat with the guy. The man is really nervous about his health having two young daughters that he wants to stay in their lifes. He asked me if I could teach him to grow his own plants in a tent in his basements storage room. So I told him that I will do my best. Thats not bad at all, I was kinda worried that he wanted me to grow it for him. So I told him that I will steer him in the right direction. Told him that we have to keep it as quiet as possible and only his wife will know. Pretty cool chick he has and seemed totally grateful and was full of hugs and thank yous when I agreed to help. I let it known that I will help teach him as long as it is for his personal medication and not for profit, Which he totally agreed with. Gonna have to do it under a 1000 bucks also seein how christmas is a coming. At least I could provide the seeds, Got some peakseeds strains here and others like the Lemon Chunk that might be good for his oils and tintcures being a frosty as hell. So that took a lot of stress from me let me tell you, But this should be a good adventure to partake. Make a couple of good friends along the way never hurts. Thanks again all K.I.M.
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    Good to hear KIM! This seems like the best course of action, and it's great that you can help him make the setup and teach and provide seeds. Good on you man, and you will probably feel so good for helping and love the teaching aspect I hope to one day do the same for others
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    Thanks superman, It is starting to feel good I hope that I can do good for him. Got lots o magazines I told him to start readin on the crapper. Hightimes, TY, Skunk, Weedworld. That should be a great starting point I figure, Thats how I did it. The way the world is going when the apocolypse starts us ganga growers will be treated like kings. Wait and see.lol K.I.M.
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