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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadimar View Post
    Lol... my basement keeps getting turned into a puddle and living beside a body of water probably doesn't help.

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    Well, Gotta go. I have to go write letters to the Editor in favour of banning home gardening in general *shudders at the thought of cucumbers*.

    Mold, ya know. It's a killer

    Oh, @#$^%..forgot...fans, blowers, doors, RH meters, AC, dehumidifiers, safe-antifungals, vents, ducting, and windows exist *slaps forehead*
    Yeah, makes one wonder why tomatoes, veggies and flowers are safe, but cannabis is not. Which growers do you think put more money into environmental control?

    Of course, to me, this would seem to be the perfect argument for standards, as it would allow us to 'prove' our grows were safe. Let the screaming and tearing of hair begin.......

    People do not realize how easy it is to get mold in a new home. It just has to rain 1 time with out shingles on your roof and there will be mold issues that you can not even see.
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    Default Maybe we are closer than we think to the solution?

    Maybe some glimmer of light at the end of a long tunnel? I want to post this June 10, 2013 MacLean's article in a new thread, but you guys should read it a.s.a.p. Mods please re-up this if it belongs in a different place on the forum. Thanks http://www2.macleans.ca/2013/06/10/w...ize-marijuana/
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    I skimmed over the article but my eyes caught the bit about how those people who don't look like us have different cultures and hey, let's ban their stuff and toss them in jail!

    The same story has played out time and time again through history, sometimes it's called prohibition, sometimes it's called a war on drugs or in the case of the Opium Wars the drug is left out and it's called something else, often it's simply called religion or even more simply "god told me I get the big piece of chicken...oh and your house, too".

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    Thanks for that Maclean's link it was awesome. I have sent this link to lots of old grannies and seniors I know and a few registered nurses that i know. Educating people is the key to our success.

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    Quote Originally Posted by super dave View Post
    Thanks for that Maclean's link it was awesome. I have sent this link to lots of old grannies and seniors I know and a few registered nurses that i know. Educating people is the key to our success.
    That's how I felt about it, too. It's fantastic that a highly regarded Canadian publication like MacLean's is making this information available to its readers. Imagine all the doctors office waiting rooms this will be read in. Seriously, notwithstanding the current HC bullcrap we have to deal with, there is definitely hope for society's will in general. Now if we could just find a politician with a decent pair...
    "To continue outlawing the use of a drug shown to have life-saving, anti-cancer benefits, that has been used safely as a medication for thousands of years, is irresponsible."

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    Thanks for posting that link, GreenMeds.
    It certainly is an interesting read and should hopefully wake some people up to the powers of this plant.
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    Hey all,

    I was wondering, as an implication of this, what would be the repercussions for growing two or three plants for someone without a medical license? Below the six plant minimum -- no fine?

    I can't seem to find any direct link to show how this compares to now! Just lookin' for the black and white of it.

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    tripp96,

    Only time will tell but I imagine that if you're just growing just a few plants, the mandatory minimum sentences that this govt. plan to impose will not apply.
    They're going to have to prove in court that you were growing to sell to others and not for personal consumption.
    I really think that's what most of us wants - to be able to grow our own medicine for personal use in the privacy of our own homes.
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    Remember, You have no need to weigh or bag your own bud so please make a point to have neither scales nor baggies near each other nor your plants.

    If you own a scale, wipe it down with iso and place some stamps and envelopes with it in a desk drawer with nothing cannabis related.
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    Thanks for the informative replies guys!

    I will protect myself!!!



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    haha, that's some good tips there Shadimar about the scale, never thought of that.
    I was travelling down the states in college and we brought down our own rolling papers, anyways, my friend brought a bag of rolling tobacco and kept it with the papers at all times. Just like the scale, it can be considered paraphanelia, although not in the context of your own home and it wouldn't convict you of distributing, but a little bit of thought and you have complete camouflage! I love it.
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    Indeed, there's an old (00's) ep of COPS where they pull over two white kids for being in a black neighbourhood, search them and find only papers so they call both their parents and claim they were trying to buy crack. I think they charged the guy with possession of paraphernalia for having cigarette papers w/o tobacco as well but I could be mistaken.
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    It's kinda scary, but when you think about it, almost everyone knows someone who's been pulled over by cops and had cocaine planted on them or had it threatened upon them. Maybe it's just my associations.
    Last week I went out and bought some stealth surveillance equipment, getting ready for the upcoming law changes, I want to make sure everything is (discreetly) recorded if they do tangle with me,
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadimar View Post
    Remember, You have no need to weigh or bag your own bud so please make a point to have neither scales nor baggies near each other nor your plants.

    If you own a scale, wipe it down with iso and place some stamps and envelopes with it in a desk drawer with nothing cannabis related.
    how about to check your own eficiency (weiging the cost of growing against black market prices) and bags for storage, they can only ASSume, you can prove different, it would suck to have to , and i dont wish it on anyone, just making a point

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    You've got me there on the efficiency point, however.

    Please excuse the following poorly constructed sentences:

    Once you go glass bags are just ass, or, Once you go mason bags are just wastin' (resin glands).

    Once again, I apologize for the above

    Sadly, depending where you live simply owning too much or having more than one container will be enough to justify an Intent To Distribute charge in the eyes of Johhny Law.

    I hate to use the same TV show again, but another ep had a quart of Motarebel's Skywalka in a Mason jar and the cop charged the owner (who had just purchased the jar) with intent claiming that it was far too much for one person despite the logical point that it is both cheaper and more convenient to buy in bulk.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tripp96 View Post
    Hey all,

    I was wondering, as an implication of this, what would be the repercussions for growing two or three plants for someone without a medical license? Below the six plant minimum -- no fine?

    I can't seem to find any direct link to show how this compares to now! Just lookin' for the black and white of it.

    Thanks

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    Please don't confuse the Safe Streets and Communities Act with the Criminal Code of Canada. Cannabis is still very much illegal. The 'six plant rule' has only to do with sentencing - the SSC Act sets a new minimum sentence of 6 months in jail for growing six or more plants. Even if you grow one plant without a licence, you are committing an illegal act under the CCC and are subject to all the fun that our federal justice system has in store.
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    Harper is a big fan of tried and failed faith based initiatives from the states like mandatory minimums that lead to violent offenders getting paroled early because the prison has to make room for mandatory minimum cannabis possessors.

    Wouldn't it be nice if I were joking
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadimar View Post
    ...depending where you live simply owning too much or having more than one container will be enough to justify an Intent To Distribute charge in the eyes of Johhny Law...
    Shad totally bizarre what they can use to prosecute Peeps. Down here you don't dare have a scale of any type in your home. They feel if you have a postal scale, even if you have a home business and ship products regularly, you have to be using it to weigh out drugs for sale. it goes beyond common sense to me..used to be innocent until proven guilty, be well, be safe..DD
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    Hi everyone. all Canadian permit holders Need to write (not text) their mp and demand that this government which proclaims it's belief in "rule of law" should do just that and Obey the supreme court ruling which Guaranteed our right to EASY access to QUALITY medicine. PLEASE do not bend over and ask for more! many fought hard to gain our right to grow our own, this was already ruled on and WE WON!!. WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO GROW OUR OWN!. everything they say is a lie, the abuse is minimal, the potency is bs, its just because the medical grade has no seeds and also no other krap. I smoked in the 70's and it was rare to get "sensi" most cannabis had seeds and stems mixed in. this fight is life and death for some. if we forget about quality and access, what about the ruddy price. I grow my own and I could NEVER afford to pay for it. I grow outdoor and the cost is next to nothing. one sourced supply is gonna be fair, hahahahaha. only in Canada are monopolies accepted.
    we must organize and Demand our right to grow be respected. we have the power, we just need to get off our asses and organize.
    I am going to Ottawa in mid November to smoke and protest. I am not sure of exact date as mr harpocrit has delayed the return to parliament until sometime tentatively in October, which really means November. I cannot believe how this government has been more corrupt than anything they ever accused others of doing.

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    I believe this is part of a larger issue, affecting all medicinal herbs:
    http://naturalhealthfreedomcanada.com
    Herbs not sold in raw form must be regulated. If they need to be fresh and don't grow locally, you can only buy them if Health Canada says you can.

    As I summarize:
    For our safety we would be better incarcerated than risk poor quality control and contamination. (there if nothing else happens, we can at least be guaranteed to have access only to legislated food that is bad for our health)

    ... this from the same department that is approving GMO's for human consumption with no independent studies and no labelling, keeping secrets about frankenfish salmon plans to follow US to feed it to us (I'm pretty sure I have that right: check PEI eggs, plans to breed AquAvantage in Panama, chem trails to help eradicate our natural salmon -- toxic dumping -- along the salmon routes -- and the BC ex enviro minister blowing the whistle on the feds knowing about it, 99.9% infertile -- read some guaranteed to breed and escape -- and the whole human consumption thing)

    ... It is starting to make me wonder whether the goal is to kill most of us off nice and slowly while we wait to see specialists, and make sure we can't buy healthy food and medicate with natural products in the meantime.

    and then of course, regarding transportation: if your meds are mostly covered by your provincial government, what about government subsidy for delivery (as mentioned rural transport for 4g for instance) and some people get their prescribed meds on a weekly basis due to previous attempted overdosing.... and what happens if you live remotely -- will they fly it in weekly?

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    yup thank you Mr Harper for making ushave to grow underground again. Watch the arrest rate i going to astronomically rise in the next year. Looks like he wants to support the cartels and mobs that get funded by the illegal trade. Not make it a more peacefull, out of debt, Happy country. The mans gotta go away and take his ideas with him cause they dont work
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    the guv is the biggest criminal in the world with power.

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    There was that movie about Harper in the late 90s, I never saw it but if memory serves he was played by Tom Hanks and there was an oft-memed scene in which an actress yells "Run, Stephen. Run!"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadimar View Post
    There was that movie about Harper in the late 90s, I never saw it but if memory serves he was played by Tom Hanks and there was an oft-memed scene in which an actress yells "Run, Stephen. Run!"
    where is he running to?

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    I'm not sure exactly, but he also eat some chocolate on a park bench and plays table tennis before Atari made it available to anyone with a TV.

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