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    Hi guys, my pain doc retired (he waas supposed to take care of my renewal before retiring)and I'm looking for a (canabis friendly) pain doc ideally in the GTA(after waiting 8 weeks for health canada to bounce back my renewal).
    My current conditions include chronic pain/fatigue and rheumatoid arthritis.
    Ideally it would be a medical practicitioner that I could have an ongoing relationship with, as my health issues require some monitoring, but in the interim I'd also take the name of any doctor willing to sign my form B.
    Canabis was my prescription up until 3 days ago, although it would require a new ATP but it wouldn't be my first time in the program. I am not a "high volume" patient, my current script is 3G/day and with some industriousness it works out well for my needs.

    Thanks in advance,


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    p.s. Thank God I'm a D.G. so I can still hold onto my current set-up.
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    sorry just wanted to stress, although a few people have already PM'd me. please don't post anyone's info here, just PM .
    THX
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    Just in case anyone misses that and accidentally posts some info, I'll keep an eye out and forward it to you via PM
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    Thanks brother, I've had some overwhelming support from a dozen or so members and I'm doing my best to retain my own legitimacy and stick to my own treatment plan.

    I must admit that my doc has let me down and am not able to get an answer at his location (D. Saul). It's annoying because my doc quashes the renewal (again, after signing it) and then does so without notifying me or offering me alternative treatments.

    To be honest Im a sick person left with no health care plan suddenly.
    I've contacted a few docs and I'm continuing with my current treatment, in the absence of anything else.

    My doc did warn me he would be retiring, but told me not to worry because in a year they'd change the mmar and anyone could get it signed. So i didn't bother requesting my files and diagnosis from specialists to keep on-hand. Now the problem is compounded by the fact that I need to get my files from my now retired practicitioner. Im trying to figure out where and how to make a request for said files. I was thinking the CMA probably forces doctors to keep their files just like the UCLS forces lawyers to keep files for 7 years. Anyone been through this?

    cheers,

    p.s. not as simple as calling or faxing or email my doc, none of the contact info works or is answered or has a machine etc .
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    Yes, the Ontario branch of the COllege of Physicians will likely help. I've had this issue in AB. Although I got a copy prior to the office shut down, those that didn't were directed to the College of Physicians in AB. Otherwise your new doc can order copies of specialist reports directly from the physician, unless they are on an electronic system like we have here?
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    I got a hold of my retired doctor (rather he got in touch with me).
    He wouldn't even touch the issue of why he decided to withdraw his support(strange?).
    He told me he wanted $100.00 before he'd give me a copy of my files (storage and processing fees he claims).

    Gotta love the system.

    p.s. 2 of his former patients with the same problem as me have contacted me in the past 24 hours.
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    OG Ghost Train haze #1.
    Blue Cheese.
    MK Ultra, The Hog, Wreckage.
    Nevilles Haze, Critical Mass, SSH, Black Widow, Shark Shock, Medicine Man, G13 Widow, Ortega, Angels Breath.
    Petrolia Head Stash, Willie Nelson, Golden Temple Kush.

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    Kinda the way it works sometimes. Though, that is also a tax deductible expense when you file your taxes.

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    damn doctors!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by h.truman View Post
    damn doctors!!!
    Government pressure plain and simple. Doctors are claiming no evidence to support cannabis as a medicine and one of the first things the reformers did was to cancel funding for research. Let's face it, most doctors are running a business and don't want the risk or attention.

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    just wanted to add that the list of people with this problem involving doctor saul is now up to six people who have contacted me and made themselves known to have the exact same situation.

    cheers,
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    OG Ghost Train haze #1.
    Blue Cheese.
    MK Ultra, The Hog, Wreckage.
    Nevilles Haze, Critical Mass, SSH, Black Widow, Shark Shock, Medicine Man, G13 Widow, Ortega, Angels Breath.
    Petrolia Head Stash, Willie Nelson, Golden Temple Kush.

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    Politics sticking its nose into healthcare
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    It's annoying because I can easily grow my own without anyone knowing. The combo of biodynamic + led + sealed room has pretty much zero footprint/evidence. I have my D.G. to be able to sell my excess and keep my phenos intact.
    It just sucks because in Canada it's really hard to find a doctor to see on a regular basis, then it's next to impossible to establish yourself with a physician (easier if you have children or are elderly). Really hard as a 30 year old white male. I don't have much faith in the system, You know by the way I grow that I do my own research and form my own opinions. As much effort as I put into my biodynamic I equally put into my own homeopathic (i guess that's what it's recognized as) treatments for my own nervous system illness. It really just is a matter of wanting to be in compliance with the law. I do , believe it or not, respect the concept of law. It just weighs heavily on my conscious as I move forward seeking new/continued treatment. Technically I do have my condition diagnosed, and it will be with me forever .Ah well, enough rambling.
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    Tranquil Elephantizer, Blue Dream Lotus, Orange SunShine.
    OG Ghost Train haze #1.
    Blue Cheese.
    MK Ultra, The Hog, Wreckage.
    Nevilles Haze, Critical Mass, SSH, Black Widow, Shark Shock, Medicine Man, G13 Widow, Ortega, Angels Breath.
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    MT , don't know if you've done this already but call a couple nearby hospitals. I know here they have a list of available docs to choose from that is usually pretty up to date. Granted they may all be in walk in clinics, but that may work to your advantage. I have found them to be a little more flexible and as far as cost goes, the most I've ever had to pay one when I had to go that route was 20$.

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    I to was with Dr Saul, I told MT, that a couple of days ago, I was fortunate to leave him last year, when he told me was retiring. I switched to Dr Kammeran, because he was in Ontario and was a real laid back doctor. That turned into a ClusterF@ck Itself.

    My renewal date was for this month actually, and around Nov, Dec, I was shitting bricks, but I was able to use one the of “online Dr/Clinics” that people are using, and get a renewal.

    I would recommend:

    DONOHARM CLINIC OR
    MMAS (1-855-560-1234)

    To find do no harm clinic just Google them as one word. Donoharmclinic

    Good luck to all, It can be pricey, but to have this license and have a renewal is worth everything.

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    Happy Dance!
    My D.G. actually wound up getting me in touch with his pain doc - Guess good things do go around.
    If all goes according to plan I should have my paperwork signed and into my government by the weekend.
    A hopefully happy ending.

    Now to draft my cover letter for health canada to the effect of ... "since you sat 2 months on my renewal knowing my doctor had stopped signing, can you please not sit on your ass for 2 months and speed up the processing of my application in return for the massive inconvenience and stress you caused me." and of course then I get to wait three months instead of two lol.
    Currently hording the following elite genetics;

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    Tranquil Elephantizer, Blue Dream Lotus, Orange SunShine.
    OG Ghost Train haze #1.
    Blue Cheese.
    MK Ultra, The Hog, Wreckage.
    Nevilles Haze, Critical Mass, SSH, Black Widow, Shark Shock, Medicine Man, G13 Widow, Ortega, Angels Breath.
    Petrolia Head Stash, Willie Nelson, Golden Temple Kush.

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    I had a friend send in a 'request to expediate' on a fudged up application, from leaving his hands it was back to him in less than 20 business days. Even without the request mine have taken less than 4 weeks this year.

    At least it's over for another year.

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    Email them here, they take about 3 days to get back to you...

    mmap-pamm@hc-sc.gc.ca,

    Tell them to hurry up, and this is an email, that is used for these sort of things, not to be confused with the consultation emails.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MidnightToker View Post
    Happy Dance!
    My D.G. actually wound up getting me in touch with his pain doc - Guess good things do go around.
    If all goes according to plan I should have my paperwork signed and into my government by the weekend.
    A hopefully happy ending.

    Now to draft my cover letter for health canada to the effect of ... "since you sat 2 months on my renewal knowing my doctor had stopped signing, can you please not sit on your ass for 2 months and speed up the processing of my application in return for the massive inconvenience and stress you caused me." and of course then I get to wait three months instead of two lol.


    Excellent news my friend. Congrats and hopefully they'll get your info back to you "without delay"

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    Yep, not wasting any time, I'll be heading directly to the post office after my appointment.
    I've already drafted my cover letter and I'll email them to reiterate once the tracking slip shows the docs delivered.
    it's usually overnight from Pearson area to Ottawa.
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    OG Ghost Train haze #1.
    Blue Cheese.
    MK Ultra, The Hog, Wreckage.
    Nevilles Haze, Critical Mass, SSH, Black Widow, Shark Shock, Medicine Man, G13 Widow, Ortega, Angels Breath.
    Petrolia Head Stash, Willie Nelson, Golden Temple Kush.

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    There's Pam again, I wonder if she's the public face of HC now or what?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MidnightToker View Post

    I need to get my files from my now retired practicitioner. Im trying to figure out where and how to make a request for said files. I was thinking the CMA probably forces doctors to keep their files just like the UCLS forces lawyers to keep files for 7 years. Anyone been through this?

    cheers,

    p.s. not as simple as calling or faxing or email my doc, none of the contact info works or is answered or has a machine etc .
    Try writing the College of Physicians and Surgeons, explain you need to access those files. They will no doubt have his residential contact info. I had to get their help getting files released by one doctor and an other disciplined for putting my history into a paper shredder. I did find the College easy to deal with on file issues.

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