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    I wondered about that but figuired we were dealing with elves so thought I was safe lol guess not lol so your right up there with musical giants like Prince & Bruce huh, vertically challanged u could say

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    People like us are simply more concentrated is all, you know.. like frozen orange juice.
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    yuppers, my wife is, as she says 5' 3ish lol I say she rounds up lol I tower over her being 5'7" lol

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    Can I squeeze another thing in?

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    Just got 40 lbs of worm castings in yesterday..

    Guess what broke open in shipping
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    Quote Originally Posted by HerbTarlek View Post
    MT,
    I try to avoid high water content waste like melons, cucumber and tomatoes and the like. I find they saturate the bin and create an anaerobic muddy medium for the worms deep below. I also avoid citrus rinds, onions (pew), avocado (they don't breakdown) and hot peppers. Cracking the lid and letting the bin breath from time to time helps with the stagnation and smell issues. I also like to add shredded paper from my office shredder at work non toxic ink only, my $.02.

    melons, cucumber, citrus etc are the best things for your compost. but the water from them isnt.
    so dry them out and grind them up first!

    and make sure your bin has good drainage,
    i always add big/small perlite and vermiculite,
    egg shells and oyster shells
    and sometimes well rinsed and dried coco

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    so how did this work out MT?

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    I think I still have some worms living in my totes but I don't feed them enough as I'm just cannaposting my trim, stems, duff, etc.

    I don't generally have any food waste so I guess I'm mostly back to the microherd.
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    Was hoping to find out how cold they can get and still be shiped alive. I want to get a bin going as I have a lil bit of composting trash I can't toss out on the garden compost. Supposed to be almost 50 here this weekend, may have to get the small tiller running and chop up the compost pile. Going to try and till in used medium recycled from root balls, the garden should love it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MidnightToker View Post
    hm, never noticed anything to the contrary, but my worm juice stinks! I had to dump the bin of juice today and hopefully that'll get rid of the smell. it smells like putrid melons and milk, i dunno why it smells like milk because I have only added banana peels, cucumbers, and cantaloupe.
    I hear thats the best part, the juice?

    Mine are setup just to collect juice.

    course I harvest my worms from the seed worms that were added to the Swales and Berms a few years ago :-)

    Think I got a dozen or so now in a small cooler. 5 gallon type cooler maybe. Have to get some pictures I recon' :-)
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    Heh. Worms is fun. I just spent the afternoon cleaning out my finished bin into a recycled soil mix. I was surprised to see a few worms (20 or more) in the bottom of the tub as I hadn't fed this tub in over a year. I always found 1 or two worms and a couple of cocoons whenever i would dip out a cup, but never expected so many. I had tried to harvest them and move them to my other bin when I pulled this one to use. I guess that should mean the castings/vermicompost is mucho alive This bin was my first. I used shredded newspaper as bedding and kitchen scraps as food. I probably don't feed enough though according to what I read.

    My second bin used old poplar (aspen) leaf as bedding and again kitchen scraps for food. It looks ok too and now is offline to mature/age. It has loads of worms, but they look kinda small compared to bins 3 and 4 which I made bedding from screened homemade compost ammended with charcoal and buffalo p**p (and fed kitchen scraps although I doubt they need more food). There is a herd of wild bison out west where I travel from time to time and when they walk down the road well they leave behind a whack of evidence so last year I thought 'why not' and brought home a garbage bag full. I figured this was a great way to get it worked into my mix. I guess I'll see in a few months after the worms are done with it.

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    Ah, just imagine having to explain that one to a hitchhiker or cop
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    ...or the boss when you pull in at the end of the day. I told him I cleaned up a rest area along the highway...lol.


    Hey Under... I'm no expert, but above freezing temps would be necessary IMO and from what I have read. A couple of more reputable websites warn that it's not a great idea to ship in the winter. That being said if you are sure the shipment won't encounter freezing temps then I'd go for it. If you are near a larger center you may be able to source local worms where you take a bucket to some local guy and get it filled so you can keep em warm yourself. check craigslist et al. Another option some lucky people have is to buy a bucket of vermicompost from the local guy and it should have worms/cocoons in it. The store bought types won't 'cause they have been sterilized with heat...seems counterproductive to me.
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    Damn tourists never flush

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bushboy View Post
    ...or the boss when you pull in at the end of the day. I told him I cleaned up a rest area along the highway...lol.


    Hey Under... I'm no expert, but above freezing temps would be necessary IMO and from what I have read. A couple of more reputable websites warn that it's not a great idea to ship in the winter. That being said if you are sure the shipment won't encounter freezing temps then I'd go for it. If you are near a larger center you may be able to source local worms where you take a bucket to some local guy and get it filled so you can keep em warm yourself. check craigslist et al. Another option some lucky people have is to buy a bucket of vermicompost from the local guy and it should have worms/cocoons in it. The store bought types won't 'cause they have been sterilized with heat...seems counterproductive to me.
    We have had a heat wave the past couple of days but winter isn't done with us yet. I am not sure of a local source but I need to find em or see about getting some in the mail here in a few weeks.

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    Oh, I see.

    I just recently purchased 40lbs of worm castings but it appears there will be no baby worms in it, that's ok as I already have a small worm population, although there were a little tedious to find last time around, I don't think I feed them enough except for leaves, stem, trim, and vapour duff.
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    Found some good info for stateside farmers here.
    https://www.bae.ncsu.edu/topic/vermi...-by-state.html

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    Canadian Worms... American worms..




    Just imagine the size of their passports




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    "a sustainable worm bedding called coco coir," is the reply I got from one fella.
    Seems worms go hand in hand.
    I may be making a trip to get some worms if they are unable to ship.
    Now to finalize the making of the habitat.
    Wondering how well the shipping crates we made at a former gig could work, they nest together but have a bit of room when stacked. Some have good sized holes on the bottom. I love being able to re-purpose stuff and not spend the dough!


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    Walmart carries worms as bait, too

    Those containers look usable.

    I use peat as a bed for my compost and the worms were fine with it.

    Happy worm ranching
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    office paper shreds,I read a mention of avoiding inks?
    But yet shreadded newspaper is what is used alot?

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    Well newspaper uses soy based ink.

    I can't say what office papers would have but the toner could always contain dyes or metals.
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    Got my reply, the worm farmer claims he can ship all year ragrdless of the weather. That has me skeptical. We get extremely cold evan when the sun shines during winter.

    So in order to prep the enviornment for the colony, I am going to get a few bags of shreaded newspaper, wanted to break open a few spent root balls from the grow to give em some soil and other good stuff.
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    i"m Searching for red Californian worms in Canada do you guys recommend some place to buy them that can ship them to me alive ??



    Thanks !!!

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